Weapons

Weapons

Before you seriously consider "in season" sabbing, you must realize that some strategies involve you in enemy territory. Hunters are traditionally careless, and sabbing during a season can be dangerous.

It is our personal policy to view each hunter in the woods as a potential threat. Not everyone in the woods is happy with us fucking with their hobby. Avoid direct contact if possible. Check out the page on received threats for examples.

You do not save animal lives by being mistaken for “game” and killed. Wearing Hunter Orange is not just a fashion statement

Guns: Safety, suggestions, and an explanation.

We have chosen to advocate weapons for undercover sabbing. We fully acknowledge that there are those of you reading this that will disagree. We also know that this is one of the pages most visited by hunter and discussed on their forums. The collective is primarily operating in the deep south, and we have found that the most effective way for us to sab during a season is to appear as hunters. While monitoring numerous hunting lists we have found a small portion of the hunting community that thinks shooting sabs would be funny. This can also be found on our threat page. If you are in the woods and are shot at, find cover and yell something like "mother fucker I'm not a damn deer" if they fire at you again, they are trying to kill you. You have every legal right to defend yourself if an attempt is made on your life. If you have followed our advise you have a camera to record the evidence.

I grew up around guns on a farm in the mid-west. Gun safety was something learned before you could ride a bike. There are those of you "bunny-hugging, commie, pinko, liberal, city folk" that have never held a gun before. I admire you for it. If you are set on this method of sabbing, I suggest taking a gun safety course and talking to friends who may have some experience in this matter.

Safe Sabbing Rules 1-2-3-4 Orange

	Assume every gun is loaded
	Control the muzzle. Point your gun in a safe direction
	Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
	Be sure of your target and beyond
	Hunter Orange ~ 7 times safer

Gun Safety 101:

	Never assume a gun is unloaded. Check.
	Never assume the safety is on. Check.
	Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to kill. I hate the empty sky, and think it should die.
	Never keep a shell chambered while walking in the woods.
	I suggest using only shotguns or blanks in your primary weapon. A rifle bullet can travel for miles. (a game warden has the right to inspect your weapon in most states, keeping a few real shells on you might be a good idea)
	Always clean your gun.
	Know the weapon you're firing.

Where to buy:

You can purchase shotguns and rifles without a waiting period. I have had good luck with pawn shops and have seen shotguns for under $100. Always get a used gun checked at a gunsmith's before discharging ammo through it. Be prepared to spend at least an hour filling out paper work. Things go faster early in the day.

Handguns have a waiting period (Don't know about the rest of the US but the last pistol someone in the collective bought took less time than a shot gun, and had no waiting period.), are easier for kids to shot themselves with, and are generally more expensive than shotguns and rifles. Most pawn shops have a variety of hand guns available. Again, have it checked out. Revolvers don't have the same issues that you will find in automatics. They are easier to clean and simpler to use. True, you might not look cool as when you slap in a fresh clip, but you also won't get the web of your thumb caught in the slide.

We have become fond of .357 magnums for their noise producing power. A .357 magnum will also fire .38 special rounds which are cheaper and have less kick (but are not as loud) Several versions are available for under $300.

Shotgun Suggestions:

12 or 20 gauge shotguns are best for this type of application. Both are loud and have a short killing range. I prefer steel skeet shot for its low mussel velocity and low environmental impact. It has been suggested that rubber shot is a good alternative for larger game, and provides more assurance that you won't accidentally kill something in the woods. The price per shell is 3-4 times that of a standard shell and we have yet to verify it's effectiveness.

Pump action shot guns are preferred. Single or double shotguns kick hard, and auto loaders heat up quickly and are more expensive A long barrel (especially with a choke) will keep the pellets in a tighter spray and offer more control as to where they end up.

After shooting a box of shells, let the barrel of your gun cool for a few minutes before going for it again. Alternating when you fire will also make you more annoying and harder to pinpoint.

A cushioned stock is an absolute must.

Any gun you purchase should be comfortable for you to hold and light enough to carry.

Ear protection, ear protection, ear protection.

Decide which shoulder you're firing from and look for a gun that discharges the shell away from your torso. Most guns are designed for the right shoulder.

If firing in the traditional manner, keep the stock of the gun against your shoulder when firing. The loud cursing if you forget will probably also drive animals away, but it is not as fun.

Hand guns:

Blanks are available for a variety of hand guns. Larger guns have a louder report, but they kick more and, in my opinion, heat up faster when firing a large amount of ammo (100+ shells). Smaller calibers kick less, and you can carry more shells. If this is being carried for self defense go to the local firing range. Make sure you can hit what you're aiming at.

Note: we have come across several reports of people being charged with hunter harassment for rapid discharge of a weapon. These folks could have easily avoided this charge if they stated they where shooting at a "rattlesnake": or similar dangerous creature.