Quotes

Quotes

Hunting From the Horses Mouth

(from veganvanguard.com) I have taken care to include whole quotes as I find them. Accordingly, if you pay attention you may find a sentence that if removed would have made the statement far more demeaning to certain people and to the activity of hunting in general. Because I believe in keeping things in relative context though, I have avoided this entirely. Therefore, these statements are as issued.
(16 Quotations)

	A Hunter - "No matter what ever else happens with my life, I have gone to Alaska and killed a grizzly bear." [65]
	A Hunter - "… the simplicity of the hunting was awesome. Those Magellan (Argentine geese) acted as if they were dumb mallards working robo duck decoys. Often they’d come in at a mere 10 feet off the deck waving their way across the sunflower stubble like teal over a slough. Even when we stood up, guns in hand, many failed to flare (turn and flee)." [63]
	A Hunter - "Our job is to engage more and more non hunters into the experience of the excitement of seeing a whitetail without the animal ever knowing you are there and then having the skill to hit the animal with a bullet, arrow, or dart." [62]
	A Hunter - "I once went 11 years without getting skunked on any one occasion. During those 11 years, I hunted 30 to 75 times a year. I always got a goose. BEST HARVEST – 117 geese and 48 mallards in two hours with 5 other hunters while hunting in Saskatchewan over decoys. . . BEST YEAR – 986 geese personally harvested from Sept. 1, 1996 thru March 10, 1997 while hunting 185 days out of a possible 191 days. I missed 6 days because of travel. . . . I need to kill 10 more geese while shooting alone or with the help of someone else to accumulate 13,000 in my lifetime." [59]
	A Hunter - "Wow! I found out how tough buffalo really are!! They can sure absorb a lot of lead! My bull took three shots right in the boiler room, and bled for 20 minutes before I finished him with a 4th round. What a thrill!" [54]
	A Hunter - ". . . one other thing I just don’t understand, is why grown men must try to kill every bird that flies by, just to be #1 in the harvest category. I heard of one group of hunters in the Glades area near Grafton, who were so determined to be the top blind, that they shot at every bird that they possibly could and on some days their cripple loss outnumbered their harvest loss. How could they possibly consider themselves hunters? [52]"
	A Hunter (Whining about wildlife refuges) - "I know the birds need a place to rest and escape hunting pressure. But, do we need to put them on a welfare program? First we build them areas to nest and breed; this is all good and well. Everyone and everything needs a place to call home. Then we build a huge playground, or in this case, they are called a refuge. This is where they can sit, play and socialize. . . . Then, just because most become so relaxed and have not a worry in the world, they forget how to work and put food on the table. So in this case, we plant thousands of acres of flooded corn, millit and natural vegitation, thus we have created a society of ducks that move from one housing project to the next. . . . In my opinion, we as hunters need to pull together and put a stop to this practice. (sic)" [51]
	A Hunter - "Animals are NOT humans or citizens with rights; they are PROPERTY. Whether it is the private property of my pet or livestock or the public property of wild animals held in trust for each of us by OUR government they belong to us. No matter whether they are so smart or so big or "so much like us"; they are and shall remain property for us to butcher or bob their tail or shoot over decoys on a cold fall morning. [46]"
	A Hunter - "Hunters, fishermen, and trappers have a very real stake in maintaining the animals they pursue. . . . The animals provide pleasure, food, products, and an ancillary industry that benefits the nation as well as each of us. [46]"
	A Hunter - "We are so vilified by teachers and the media that we are ashamed to say we enjoy pursuing, killing, and benefiting from the animals we take. [46]"
	A Hunter - "Justin wore the unmistakable grin that a successful hunter has after taking an animal. [20]"
	A Hunter - "The group of a dozen Blue-wing buzzed the smart weed bed some 50 yards from my set and squeals from [my] trusty teal call brought them flipp’n, dippin and diving; heading for a traumatic encounter. Blasts from my 20 gauge A-5 Browning sent the startled birds into a steep climb but not before two splashed belly-up, in the shallow water of the decoys. My heart raced with joy and excitement as the brace was retrieved. [10] (sic)" [The birds he killed are Blue-winged teal (ducks); A Browning A-5 is a model of a shotgun.]
	A Hunter - "The sound of the dogs howling came and went as John’s dogs pushed my target slowly towards me. Suddenly I spotted a flash of tan and white as Susie the Beagle flitted around a cranberry bush 50 yards down the ravine. Ahead of her a bouncing cottontail darted out from behind a clump of saw grass where the ravine met the cornfield. My .410 gauge shotgun echoed once and we had the key ingredients for rabbit stew. Moments later, two more cottontails raced into the corn field. The fourth one wasn’t as lucky. At the report of my shotgun the rabbit rolled, then lay still. More Stew! [9] (emphasis added)"
	Conservation Officer (Animal Extirpation) - Referring to a so-called team of “sharpshooters” an officer had this to say. "This is not hunting, this is like a SWAT team, but instead of taking down terrorists, they will be taking out deer. [14]"
	Ted Nugent - ". . . we processed the beast and hung him up to drain in the cooling Texas air. Tomorrow would be a celebration of the spirit and the flesh as we butchered the prime protein into family sized portions, a BBQ the only fitting completion of this always fascinating cycle of life and death. The beast is dead, long live the beast! [7]" [The so called “beast” being referenced here was an axis deer.]
	Ted Nugent - "Miraculously, God had provided a small football sized clear window through the puckerbrush hell straight to her chest. I moved ultra slowly and smoothly, and as she jerked her head to leave, I kissed my carbon death-ray goodbye, never taking my eyes off her right shoulder through the hole. And it was exactly there that my razorsharp Stinger broadhead smacked, blowing the deer completely off her feet. I lit up with primal happiness! . . . I simply sat there admiring the beautiful beast and the wildground we shared. It was perfect. (sic) [55]"

Hunting Ethics & Myths From the Horses Mouth

	A Hunter (Fair Chase) - "Hogs in a large fenced area are sometimes meaner than hog running in the wild. They’re less afraid of man and they have that trapped mentality. The other exciting thing is that they taste great... People who think your just going to get in a pen and pick out your boar, well!! You are wrong. Boars are smart unpredictable animals and run very fast. (sic) [64]" [A pig can run away, but only to another place within the pen, she can never truly escape. Oh yeah, both the author and her husband were able to kill their “trophy boars.”]
	A Hunter (Conservation/Ethics) - "Argentina isn’t what it used to be when considering the number of waterfowl available. Several years of drought have taken their toll. Add to this fact the heavy hunting the ducks and geese have stood up to during the last ten years and she ain’t what she once was. [63]" [Keep in mind that during this same article the author mentions that they killed 36 Magellan geese and 6 Ash Head geese in just two days. I guess he means for the people of Argentina to curb their hunting so that tourists can come and kill with abandon.]
	A Hunter (Fair Chase) - "Dove hunting – which should properly read dove shooting – is hardly a strenuous sport. There’s none of that lung pounding climbing of hills or even the exercise of walking through thick grass following a bird dog. It’s a stand-and-wait deal, or even sit-and-wait. The difficulty in dove shooting is hitting those artful dodgers of the shot pattern. [61]"
	A Hunter (Fair Chase) - "A few years ago, my hunting partner only hit two doves out of 19 shots, but he noticed many doves were landing in a nearby dead tree and then flying into the field. He moved under the tree, blasted eight straight as they fluttered to set on the branches, moved back to the field for more sporty action and killed five birds with seven shots. [61]"
	A Hunter (Ethics) - "When I go hunting I have many objectives in mind – not the least of which is to actually kill something. I am proud of my role in the natural cycle of life and I am not about to hide behind some facade of politically correct horse dung by calling my sport “animal-friendly”. If you want “animal-friendly” buy a dog and play with it in the back yard. . . . The real pros aren’t ashamed of the fact that we kill animals. [60]"
	A Hunter (Food) - "The year is 2004 and I do not know of a single person who has to duck hunt in order to put food on the table. Myself, I enjoy duck and game meat, but if I have none, I won’t starve. So if you can’t afford groceries, you sure as heck can’t afford to go duck hunting. [52]"
	A Hunter (Ethics) - "I wonder, at times, if sportsmen comprehend the fact that ‘slob hunters’ are no longer the odd men out. They have become a well-established and significant portion of our population. Unfortunately, the community remains relatively silent and our Code of Ethics appears to be deteriorating quickly. . . . Fair chase and ethics are two words that seem to go hand-in-hand. Both seem to be suffering. [21]"
	A Hunter (Fair Chase) - "We know the animal does not have a gun and is not on equal terms with a human." [16] [This was actually posted in reply to a hunter who stated hunting was not equal, nor did it involve "fair chase."]
	A Hunter (Fair Chase) - "There are many hunters who would not consider hunting rabbits without the assistance of one or more dogs. [13] "
	A Hunter (Fair Chase) - ". . . I look at hunting as what it is a conscious decision to harvest a animal that unnless we run the animal down on foot a kill it with our bear hands hunting is not fair, or on equal terms. [6] (sic)" (This hunter counters one of the myths of hunting)
	Brian Murphy (Conservation) - (Executive Director: Quality Deer Management Association) - "This . . . [book] . . . is testament to the dedicated hunters and biologists that brought whitetails back from the brink of extinction to become the most popular and abundant big game animal in America. [11]" [Alas, if hunters only cared about animals, nearly extinct, that they can’t shoot.]
	Conservation Officer (Fair Chase) - "We confiscate scores of ‘two-ways’ every season. Most hunters pose no problems, but there are a growing number who ignore the ‘fair chase’ concept. It is illegal and unethical . . . and there are safety concerns. [12] (emphasis added)"
	Conservation Officer (Fair Chase) - "[Radio use] is a problem that continues to grow. . . . It’s simply a fair chase rule. In today’s world, hunters have the ability to overwhelm wildlife with technology and that’s what we’re trying to avoid. [21]"
	Wildlife Biologist (Conservation) – "Most state wildlife agencies have developed along a business model, with hunters and fishers their primary 'clients,' . . . [w]ildlife agencies provide a product for which hunters pay." (As quoted in An Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog? By Gary L. Francione)

Predator Extirpation From the Horses Mouth

	A Hunter - "A couple of hundred yards away I could see a red fox coming toward me and one hundred yards to the right a large coyote was also coming. . . . They met alright, it was the worst fight I could ever imagine and it lasted 15 minutes. That coyote killed that red fox and proceeds to eat him. Then I figured it was my turn and shot the coyote. My question is did anybody learn anything from that? [53]"
	A Hunter - "They say that coyotes kill 30% of the deer fawns and also do a pretty good job of killing turkeys. . . . See! This is another important step in the management of your deer herd and your turkey flock. [53]"
	A Hunter - "We had a couple of gobblers coming down the fence line of the pasture when all of a sudden a coyote pops out of the edge of the field and scares the toms up into the top of a huge cottonwood. Forget that hunt! But the coyote runs right up toward us on the fence line. Dave said – Shoot HIM – POW (gunshot) – he’s dead – not quite – POW – now he is. [19] (sic)"
	A Hunter - This was a conversation I wrote down as it was occurring; "Inquisitor: Do you shoot coyotes? Hunter: Every chance I get. Inquisitor: How come? Hunter: They’re too thick. [Referring to population numbers] Inquisitor: Do you shoot them with a bow? Hunter: I shoot them with anything I can."
	A Hunter - ". . . there are few predators for several species because humans killed them. Reasons not withstanding, since our cessation of hunting activities will not raise the dead predators, we must step in as the predators, or population controllers, of these animals. [45]" [Notice he doesn’t say that hunting predators should stop so that their numbers may rebound because this would undermine, if not eliminate, the need for hunters]
	Reporter - "Ohio's deer population is exploding, jumping by more than 40 percent since 1998 to an estimated 575,000. The increase is blamed on a sharp decrease in natural predators, primarily coyotes and wolves. [15]"

Trophy Hunting From the Horses Mouth

	A Hunter - "It was June 28, 2004 and the final day of our eight day hunt in South Africa . . . My partner . . . opted for a nice zebra already as an additional animal to the basic five antelope species package the eight day hunt included. We both now had very nice Kudu, Impala, Blesbuck and Springbuck already caped and ready for . . . taxidermy work that would start the day after our hunt. . . . In addition to the other spectacular plains antelope species, I really wanted to take back a Gemsbuck. (sic) (Only names were omitted from this quotation) [56]"
	A Hunter - "All I want for Christmas is a big racked buck, a big racked buck, a big racked buck, all I want for Christmas is a, well, uh, ok so I am no singer but the truth is all I want for Christmas is a big racked buck and the bigger the better. [18]"
	A Hunter - "I like to set up a little ways off of the trail but still within bow distance and simply wait for an early morning ambush to get a mature buck. [18]"
	A Hunter - "I have reached the stage in deer hunting that unless it is a major rack I am not interested. [8] "
	Conservation Officer - "Most [hunters] intend to hunt bucks the first day, or over the weekend. As a last resort, or when they hunt the last day or two, they’ll take does. Some did say they’d take a doe rather than shooting at a small buck. [12] (emphasis added)"
	Williamson County Tourism Board (Illinois) - "Today there is emphasis in some areas to maintain trophy quality in the deer herd. Deer hunters seek size and symmetry. [58]"

Wounded Animals From the Horses Mouth

	A Hunter - "They were happy and celebrating. Preston had shot his bear. It was just before dark. They had been watching a valley for several hours. All of a sudden a large adult male bear showed itself. Preston shot it with his .338. He knocked it down. It rolled and started running for the alders downhill from him. Preston shot it twice more and the guide shot his .375 to keep him out of the trees. They decided that they had better not follow it into the brush. They would retrieve the skull and hide the next morning. . . . About 15 hours later they made it back to camp. They could find no bear. They found some blood but the rest of him was gone. He simply soaked up the .338 [bullets]and ran off. [65]" [.338 (three-thirty eight) and .375 (three-seventy five) are high powered rifles. Notice also that the hunters were only going to take the skull and fur of the bear. This is because bears are hunted as trophies.]
	A Hunter - "I’ve seen all kinds of “hunters” take “I had to try, you know” shots and never even go follow up to see if they had wounded the animal. [62]"
	A Hunter - "I had been approached several times before but I was never interested in leasing my ground to hunters. I had seen to many small deer wounded with arrows left in hindquarters or bullet wounds that caused fatalities in young bucks that should have never been shot at. [57]"
	A Hunter - "You’ve just unleashed the whisper of death on an unsuspecting whitetail and as your arrow finds it’s way to your target, you hear that all-too-sickening sound of a less than ideal shot. Gut shot, shoulder shot, or worse. . .it happens to all of us. (sic) [50]"
	A Hunter - "Finally the gobbler stepped out of a dry-creek bed and popped his head up looking for his ‘Sweety.’ I shot at him, but he didn’t fall – I was shocked – he just kinda jumped and then ran off. What happened? Dave and I went over to find feathers or blood. A very few feathers but no blood. [19] (sic)"

Angling From the Horses Mouth

	Dave Genz (Pro-Angler: Mr. Ice Fishing) - "On most lakes, most of the time, fish are not as active during daylight hours. They sit there fat, dumb and happy, so you have to go find 'em, sit over 'em, and make 'em bite. [1]"
	Adam Johnson (Pro-Angler: Aquatics Biologist) - "Sudden bursts of high-intensity swimming are called “burst swimming.” This type of swimming normally lasts for only seconds (possibly minutes) and ends in physical exhaustion. Burst Swimming is critical when fish attack prey, when they migrate against strong currents or up waterfalls, or when they are fighting after being hooked. This high-intensity exercise [i.e. stress] totally drains fish of energy reserves. Recovery from such exhaustive exercise may take hours, or sometimes days, depending on the availability of oxygen following the exercise [i.e. stress] and the degree to which energy compounds are consumed by, or lost from, the fish’s tissue. (sic; emphasis added) [2]" [This article was about how live-wells (places to keep various fishes alive) don’t provide enough oxygen to keep fish alive. Now consider the fact that most anglers don’t even have live-wells; so much for catch and release.]
	Adam Johnson (Pro-Angler: Aquatics Biologist) - "Fighting handling and holding fish in captivity place severe metabolic demands on brain, muscle, heart, gill and other organ tissues putting them at considerable physiological risk. (sic) [2]"

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